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Post by Freakrusted on Dec 21, 2009 11:06:35 GMT -5
I don't know any punk and proto even more. So called sixties punk is teenbeat, and so called 70s punk, if segregated from disgusting young people life wastement known as punk subculture, should be called in it's true name of angst'n'roll.
And proto-punk is imaginary term coined by some idiots, who would discover some older records after 70s "punk" kicked in, and would say with amazement : "wow, just listen to this! Do you feeeeeeel that roughness? It must be PROTO,maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!"
So, yeah, fuck the (proto)punk.
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Post by Lee de Parade on Dec 21, 2009 13:20:35 GMT -5
So your point is that it is pointless to pinpoint the point proto-punk (possibly) progressed into punk rock? And you think it is a good idea to make up new sub-genres (angst'n'roll)?
Yes. Fuck everything. That has always been some kind of my mantra. And look where it got me. Nowhere. At least I'm fucked. And that, my undiagnosed friends, I will be for life.
I'd fuck proto-punk any day of the week if I knew what it was.
Anyway, today I was thinking about proto-punk and suddenly it hit me - before I truly and fully can understand and master the knowledge of proto-punk I will have to know what punk itself is!!
I have been a punkrocker. I have played in punkrock bands. I still never really knew what to answer those cute girls in school way-back-when how you "become" a punk-rocker and what it "is". This problem never confused my fellow hip-hoppers or heavy-metal-kids. Because there was an air of mystique over us punk-rockers. It was downright exotic.
I had one punk-rocking friend. It was me and him in the whole town - or it felt like that. We found some others after a while, but they turned out to be hillbilly pseudo-racist motherfuckers so we left them behind.
Well, my friend was reeaaally into the Clash - a band I still have a very VERY hard time to write off as true punkin' rockin' rollers - and I was thinkin': what band sounded like the Clash before Clash? Bruce Springsteen? Neil Young? Bob Marley? Yes. Yes. And yes. But that is not MY punk-rock, that is not MY inner vision of what punk-rock is.
I could tell you what my inner vision of punk-rock is and you know what - I will.
It is:
1. Counterculture Keep shaking your hips even if the man tells you to stop. That's why Elvis Presley was punky for about 2 months. After that he started turning tricks, that hunky man-whore!
2. Freaky/Weird/Don't-give-a-shitness The hippies got pretty good at this, much better than the heaps of teen-beaters some 2-3 years before them. The hippies were fuckin' fun!
3. Nihilistic/Narcissistic/Sadistic/Masochistic That is why I find Jim Morrison cool - he was a drunken self-important nutcase. 1,000 times more punk than the self-important Steve Ignorant.
4. Primitive/Crude You can't win any war if you are shootin blanks. You need some noise to shake the enemy - which is the straight society. It must be easy to pack, easy to assemble, easy to transport and still make biggest impact possible.
5. Escapism I love the idea of throwing away your slave-name and just call yourself something completely different. Not to stick out, but to drop out. Wear something cool while you are at it too! Just: don't conform - if not the form is not to conform because if it is - conform!
And I'm against it!
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Post by Lee de Parade on Dec 21, 2009 15:55:01 GMT -5
One cool band that has been sorted as both proto-punk, punk and post-punk is DEVO. I'm not sure I get it.
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Post by theplague on Dec 22, 2009 14:03:29 GMT -5
One cool band that has been sorted as both proto-punk, punk and post-punk is DEVO. I'm not sure I get it. have you heard the hardcore Devo volumes?they sound like a fucked up minimalist 10cc...sounds proto-punk to me.
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Post by Lee de Parade on Dec 22, 2009 14:44:09 GMT -5
Yes, I have! And yes, they sound like punk before punk. But I'm sure - for them - they were the same band in 72 as they were in...lez say 82.
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Post by Steven H Christ on Dec 22, 2009 19:46:10 GMT -5
Yes, I have! And yes, they sound like punk before punk. But I'm sure - for them - they were the same band in 72 as they were in...lez say 82. That ees just your OPINION why do you state eet as eef eet ees a FACT?!?!?! Halo my name is OLAF from village of Ookonkook, I member of foreign 60s band!!! I love infos about vinyls and I enjoy to beat behind the dykes ---- SAIR GOOT!!!!!
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Post by Lee de Parade on Dec 23, 2009 3:01:04 GMT -5
Cheers UFO!
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Post by Steven H Christ on Dec 23, 2009 3:29:47 GMT -5
DUNKA SHAUN!~!! Please note, however, that it is not UFO but USO which stands for United Service Organization. Whatever the fuck that means. BRUNHILDA!!!
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Post by Steven H Christ on Dec 23, 2009 3:31:22 GMT -5
In the '70s, Sweden gave the world ABBA. Australia gave the world another 4-letter named band beginning with 'A' -- AC/DC. WHO SUCKS THE MOST?
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Post by laurentbigot on Dec 23, 2009 3:50:01 GMT -5
In the '70s, Sweden gave the world ABBA. Australia gave the world another 4-letter named band beginning with 'A' -- AC/DC. WHO SUCKS THE MOST? 2 boring bands. at least Abba had the good taste of stopping early on.
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Post by Steven H Christ on Dec 23, 2009 5:44:38 GMT -5
In the '70s, Sweden gave the world ABBA. Australia gave the world another 4-letter named band beginning with 'A' -- AC/DC. WHO SUCKS THE MOST? 2 boring bands. at least Abba had the good taste of stopping early on. The brunette in ABBA was a Nazi Lebensborn Aryan Master Race child.... beat that, AC/DC. able2know.org/topic/72592-1
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Post by Steven H Christ on Dec 23, 2009 5:49:08 GMT -5
This rocks more than any Nazi Swedish Fellatio Neo-Aryan Norwegian bullfuck:
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Post by Lee de Parade on Dec 23, 2009 5:54:48 GMT -5
DUNKA SHAUN!~!! Please note, however, that it is not UFO but USO which stands for United Service Organization. Whatever the fuck that means. BRUNHILDA!!! "Please note"... you fruitcup. You will always be UFO to me, you lord of man-a names, what with the blippin and the bloppin and the squeelin and the probing. And you have that "where the hell did that come from!"-quality! AC/DC is quite alright by me, and ABBA too!
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Post by Steven H Christ on Dec 23, 2009 6:10:16 GMT -5
DUNKA SHAUN!~!! Please note, however, that it is not UFO but USO which stands for United Service Organization. Whatever the fuck that means. BRUNHILDA!!! "Please note"... you fruitcup. You will always be UFO to me, you lord of man-a names, what with the blippin and the bloppin and the squeelin and the probing. And you have that "where the hell did that come from!"-quality! AC/DC is quite alright by me, and ABBA too! LOOK, I would rather have sexual congress with the Nazi ABBA mädchen than Bon Scott or Angus....EYYYYYEW~~~~~~!!!! So at times, at least, we can agree on matters of fellatio, mon ami.
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Post by Lee de Parade on Dec 23, 2009 6:16:47 GMT -5
Oui ma folle!
But I was always a Agneta-guy. I think she ripped her pants on-stage on a tour in Australia. She was totally touting her ass for all to see. When in Rome...
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